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Hey All, New Guy Here, So I test drove a FiST yesterday and it didn't feel quite as quick as I was hoping. I know the 0-60 is supposed to be in the high 6 sec range. But this car felt about as quick as my 1.6 liter 2013 escape that's more on the order of 9 seconds, which is quite a difference. I had a buddy go with me who has test driven the Mini Cooper S which is supposed to have almost identical 0-60 and he agreed that it didn't feel as peppy as he was would have thought almost 200 hp and 200 'torques' (as the top gear guys say it) would have felt. Do any of you have any insight into this? Have any of your engines opened up significantly after getting a some miles under the belt. I think this one had like 16 on it. We were wondering whether it was maybe an issue with that certain car. I do plan on going back to do another test drive soonish because the salesman that was with us yesterday freaked out when I took a corner with a little bit of speed. C'mon man this is a freaken ST for gods sake. How am I supposed to test out this sports car without pushing it a little. I have test driven BMW's (was invited to a release event for 6 series) and night and day difference in the demeanor of the salesman, and I was driving the ST at like 25% of what I have done with the BMW's. Clearly the salesman was not used to a person who actually wants to test the limits of car. Not going back to that ford dealership. Now I know the ST is not even in the ball park of the BMW's but we were expecting a least a little bit more of a push in the seat than we actually felt. Thoughts?
 

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Your elevation probably has something to do with it. But it's a tuned version of the same engine in your Escape, and the vehicle weighs far less.
 

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Right, I know its the same engine as the escape tuned to produce more power with a much lighter vehicle which is why we thought it was going to feel much better. In my experience here at altitude the turbo vehicles feel much better, there is a more noticeable difference power with a naturally aspirated engine between here and sea level.
 

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Remember also, this can run on 87 octane gas. And typical of dealers, saving costs where they can - most likely only put the cheaper 87 in the tank. I read somewhere, when running 91 or 93 octane is where you get the full power. Think they mentioned somewhere around a 7-10 hp (and near equal "torques") difference.
 

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ST Rocky pinned it. The dealers are putting in regular gas from their own pump. After my car has run thru about 3 tanks of hi-test, I've noticed a big increase in seat-of-the-pants thrust. Low octane causes a loss of a good 20 hp.
 

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I assume you didn't get up to peak HP @ 6000 RPM during your test drive. At least I hope you didn't. Maybe peak torque @ 4200 RPM. (those figures are achieved using 93 octane fuel btw)
I wouldn't attempt to achieve that RPM until I have at least 1000 miles on the motor.
 

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I just bought mine friday, whats the recommended break in period before I really start hitting on it. Of course I have been messing around the past few days seeing what it can do, but now I am going to take it easy until I fully break it in. Also the dealer put regular 87 in and I topped it off with super 93. Does everyone recommend sticking with super 93? Thanks.
 

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The recommended break-in is 1000 miles.

I've been filling with 93, but ultimately it's up to you. You lose a not-insignificant amount of HP at the top end running 87, but it won't hurt anything.
 

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Yea I think I am going to stick with 93 just to be on the safe side, even if it costs a little more. Its anywheres from $3.30-3.60 per gallon here in NJ. 87 is about $3.00-3.10.
 

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Yea I think I am going to stick with 93 just to be on the safe side, even if it costs a little more. Its anywheres from $3.30-3.60 per gallon here in NJ. 87 is about $3.00-3.10.
Anecdotally, people see slightly better MPG on 93, to the point where the running costs are about the same. I can neither confirm nor deny.
 

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I test drove a base white with rados and 27miles and a fully loaded silver minus recaros 12miles from two different dealerships and noticed a difference in power between them. The base didnt have the oomfff that the silver did. I asked the dealer of the white base if they put 87 or 93 and he said he dodnt know because it came with gas from shipment. The white base has about an 1/8 tank left while the silver was almost full. Kinda turned me off abit and decide to order a silver base with rado wheels.
 

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Yeah Noticed in the Manual it says that keeping at fast speeds for long distances in not recommended before 1000 miles, that you should vary your speed during break in, I really want to do a 6 hour road trip to my home town, but I'm barely sitting at 100 miles so far. Do you guys think it's fine to do that road trip. I've never owned a new car so never done a break in period, but was aware of break in periods.
 

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At this point the extremely critical ring seating should be pretty much done. Just vary your speed and revs and you'll be fine. If you can, avoid highways, but from the sounds of it, a 6 hour road trip is lots of highway miles, haha.
 

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At this point the extremely critical ring seating should be pretty much done. Just vary your speed and revs and you'll be fine. If you can, avoid highways, but from the sounds of it, a 6 hour road trip is lots of highway miles, haha.
Yeah from where I want to go it's like 430 miles, also do you Frequent The Car Lounge Forum, your user name seems familiar.
 

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Guys you do realize they do most of the breaking in of engines at the factory before they ever go in the cars? I did a two tanks of gas being fairly easy on pedal and avoiding staying too long in one rpm range and then started enjoying the car for what it is :) I've done this for the past 4 new cars i've bought and never had a motor issue.
 
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