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I Just come back from Autobarn with 2 of these, 1 for my 300km change and 1 for my 1000km change. ...these were the only things on the shelf that stated the criteria code. There was the Castrol titanium stuff but didn't mention any codes that were relevant to what I was looking for.
Ford did not have anything for me to purchase over their counter and the guy behind the counter just said go to repco and buy any 5-30 synthetic lol. Repco couldn't even find any recommended oil on their computer so I left shaking my head.
 
To save any further confusion for all of us on this thread and in summary to gain a definitely answer...

The Castrol Edge Professional Titanium 5W-30 oil that is on the shelves at Supercheap or Autobarn or Repco is NOT the correct oil to use for the FiST because it doesn't meet the manufacturers (Ford) specifications?

And the only place to purchase the correct Castrol Edge Professional 5W-30 oil is from Ford themselves? Or someone who has inside contacts at a Ford dealership?
 
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To save any further confusion for all of us on this thread and in summary to gain a definitely answer...

The Castrol Edge Professional Titanium 5W-30 oil that is on the shelves at Supercheap or Autobarn or Repco is NOT the correct oil to use for the FiST because it doesn't meet the manufacturers (Ford) specifications?

And the only place to purchase the correct Castrol Edge Professional 5W-30 oil is from Ford themselves? Or someone who has inside contacts at a Ford dealership?
In regards to the Titanium, I couldn't say whether it is OR is not compatible but just didn't state the "WSS-M2C913-C" ..or any code for that matter. ..I didn't want to take a chance (if there is any chance at all to take) , so I gave it a pass. ...It could very well be suitable?

I don't know the answer in regards to the "professional" ..but by the looks of things I think you may be right?.

I have found transparently clear indications for available oils specific to the ST on retail shelves to be very very limited!
 
To save any further confusion for all of us on this thread and in summary to gain a definitely answer...

The Castrol Edge Professional Titanium 5W-30 oil that is on the shelves at Supercheap or Autobarn or Repco is NOT the correct oil to use for the FiST because it doesn't meet the manufacturers (Ford) specifications?

And the only place to purchase the correct Castrol Edge Professional 5W-30 oil is from Ford themselves? Or someone who has inside contacts at a Ford dealership?
Or through a mechanical workshop. I can get people 20L drums, it's not cheap though haha. I may be able to get 5L ones, not too confident though. It's definitely one of the most expensive oils they sell, it's more expensive than all the other oils we sell :(
 
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Discussion starter · #29 ·
Glad the info could be of use. I just used the Valvoline in the end. ,met all the requirements to the dot. I have noticed it on special "often" for approx $50 which is quite affordable in the greater scheme of things.
 
Just been reading through this since I've only just noticed something on my last service invoice. 15k/1 year service was done using the correct 5w-30, while my last 30k/2 year service was done with 10w-30. Needless to say I think I'll be doing my own from now on..
 
My service records show that the Ford dealership has used Valvoline Synthetic FE 5w-30, which appears to be specially designed for turbocharged Fords (noted on the front of the bottle). That was for the 15k km service.....
 
My service records show that the Ford dealership has used Valvoline Synthetic FE 5w-30, which appears to be specially designed for turbocharged Fords (noted on the front of the bottle). That was for the 15k km service.....
My 15k was a 5w-30, though not the specific requirement in the handbook. Then a 10w-30 at 30k... I think the dealer I take it to must simply treat it as a case of 'eh, this'll do' kind of thing. Going to start using a non-dealer mechanic for my services, or at least not the dealership I've been taking it to.
 
This thread amuses me a little as here we are on this site talking about the mods we've done which Ford would never approve but we are trying to get the specific oil that Ford recommends. Has no-one here used non-genuine parts on their car? (I'm not having a go at anyone, so please don't take offence, just my 2c worth on the debate).

In my dealership experience, most dealers have a deal with a certain oil supplier and buy in bulk from them and that is what they use in all vehicles they service, they don't as a general rule, use the Ford recommended or supplied oil.

Call me cynical, but IMHO the only reason Ford recommend that specific oil is due to a marketing deal they will have done with the oil manufacturer, not because it is the only oil that is suitable to the FiST engine. Ford have possibly done all their testing with this specific oil and all their emission and power specs were derived using this oil and to ensure that it still maintains these combined outputs they would recommend the same product. It would be interesting to see the actual engineering reasons from Ford behind the oil they recommend. I might be wrong, but if you use a good quality brand oil that meets the correct viscosity grade you should be safe.

Hypothetically would it still be the case, if someone comes up with a new advanced oil that would double the life span of an engine, gives increased mileage, reduced emissions and increased power that it wouldn't be suitable because it doesn't have Ford's specific number on it?

For what it's worth, at the 3k mark I've changed my oil and filter (which Ford don't specify as needing to be done) with a Ryco filter and Nulon semi-synthetic oil of the correct grade (but doesn't have Fords specific number printed on the back of the bottle) and will then change it at 10k and every 10k after that with a fully synthetic oil. It might be more often than the recommended intervals but much of the reasoning behind 15k service intervals is to reduce the marketable ownership costs of vehicles over their expected lifespan for the general public, who don't care as much as we enthusiasts do about their cars (yes oils and engine materials have gotten better over time, making them last longer) and doing it more often isn't going to harm the engine (just the environment).
 
My service records show that the Ford dealership has used Valvoline Synthetic FE 5w-30, which appears to be specially designed for turbocharged Fords (noted on the front of the bottle). That was for the 15k km service.....
I just used this oil and did it myself for a 10k oil change. I didn't change the filter as that can be done at the 15k dealer service. Paid $58 for it at super cheap auto. Bit different to the $250 I got quoted for a dealer oil and filter change.
 
This thread amuses me a little as here we are on this site talking about the mods we've done which Ford would never approve but we are trying to get the specific oil that Ford recommends. Has no-one here used non-genuine parts on their car? (I'm not having a go at anyone, so please don't take offence, just my 2c worth on the debate).

In my dealership experience, most dealers have a deal with a certain oil supplier and buy in bulk from them and that is what they use in all vehicles they service, they don't as a general rule, use the Ford recommended or supplied oil.

Call me cynical, but IMHO the only reason Ford recommend that specific oil is due to a marketing deal they will have done with the oil manufacturer, not because it is the only oil that is suitable to the FiST engine. Ford have possibly done all their testing with this specific oil and all their emission and power specs were derived using this oil and to ensure that it still maintains these combined outputs they would recommend the same product. It would be interesting to see the actual engineering reasons from Ford behind the oil they recommend. I might be wrong, but if you use a good quality brand oil that meets the correct viscosity grade you should be safe.

Hypothetically would it still be the case, if someone comes up with a new advanced oil that would double the life span of an engine, gives increased mileage, reduced emissions and increased power that it wouldn't be suitable because it doesn't have Ford's specific number on it?

For what it's worth, at the 3k mark I've changed my oil and filter (which Ford don't specify as needing to be done) with a Ryco filter and Nulon semi-synthetic oil of the correct grade (but doesn't have Fords specific number printed on the back of the bottle) and will then change it at 10k and every 10k after that with a fully synthetic oil. It might be more often than the recommended intervals but much of the reasoning behind 15k service intervals is to reduce the marketable ownership costs of vehicles over their expected lifespan for the general public, who don't care as much as we enthusiasts do about their cars (yes oils and engine materials have gotten better over time, making them last longer) and doing it more often isn't going to harm the engine (just the environment).
Yeah Huey, would make sense, as on the front of the Valvoline bottle, states "suits mondeo, fiesta and focus", definetely a deal done.

However, was discounted from Super cheap, and so far so good :cool:.

Ryco filter used also.

I think the service intervals for normal driving are quite long for our cars, and an oil and filter change should be slotted in there between, especially when your frequenting the track like me....
 
I think the service intervals for normal driving are quite long for our cars, and an oil and filter change should be slotted in there between, especially when your frequenting the track like me....
Agreed. Once upon a time service manuals had normal service and harsh condition service intervals listed but they seem to have fallen by the wayside recently.
 
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